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			<description><![CDATA[<b><a href="http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic16346/message56890/">Sad news ...</a></b> in forum <a href="http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/">The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client</a>. <br />
			Puzzling. Are you referring to Yahoo? They have made some changes, but still allow access from third party clients. <br />
			<i>11 June 2024 13:24:39, <a href="http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/">david kirk</a>.</i>]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><a href="http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic16346/message56854/">Sad news ...</a></b> in forum <a href="http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/">The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client</a>. <br />
			&quot;ISP&quot; is an outdated term -- it assumes that you are insufficiently knowledgeable to distinguish among connection provider, email provider, webhost provider, etc. Separate them. The painful part is switching to an email address that&#39;s independent of your connection provider.<br /><br />I have email accounts with Fastmail, Gmail, and Yahoo, though only the first is known to other people. Obviously none of them is my connection provider. A year or two ago, I switched connection providers from CenturyLink to Metronet, and last week I switched again, to T-Mobile, because tornadoes took out my Metronet line. I access all three email accounts using TB. Because the email accounts are independent of my connection provider, the latter has no control over how I access the email, and no interest in controlling my access.<br /><br /><br />As Milos (sorry, American keyboard) suggested, use forwarding to help switch to an independent email account. I know that Fastmail will pull your email from another IMAP provider. I assume Gmail can do the same.<br /><br /><br />The switch to an independent email provider will be somewhat painful, but you will never regret it. <br />
			<i>25 May 2024 23:46:26, <a href="http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/">Edward Reid</a>.</i>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2024 23:46:26 +0300</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><a href="http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic16346/message56784/">Sad news ...</a></b> in forum <a href="http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/">The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client</a>. <br />
			<br />====quote====<br /><a class="blog-p-user-name" id="bp_NsLVb7yp" href="/en/forums/" bx-tooltip-user-id="117031">Mad Batter</a> wrote:<br />By any chance, does The Bat have another way to gain access to my e-mail account with my ISP?<br />=============<br /><br />No: TB can only do what the e-mail server allows it to do, just like all other e-mail client programs.<br /><br />A friend of mine was switching to a new phone the other day, and while setting up the Yahoo Mail app it asked for permission to handle GMail messages, too (he, of course, refused). It seems that Yahoo&#39;s new strategy is to try and shove their Web/App-based e-mail client down people&#39;s throats.<br /><br />In light of all this, my advice to you would be the following:<br />1. Check whether you can configure your accounts to do automatic forwarding (redirection) of messages to another e-mail address. (This is possible with GMail, somewhere deep in the settings of their Web client, I don&#39;t know if Yahoo can do it.)<br />2. If so, open e-mail accounts with another ISP that supports third-party e-mail clients, configure Yahoo accounts to do the forwarding, and continue to use the new accounts with TB.<br />3. In any case, if you&#39;re using IMAP, check whether TB is downloading complete messages, so that you can access your message base after your ISP drops you. (Account -&gt; Properties -&gt; Mail Management -&gt; IMAP Fine-Tune). <br />
			<i>06 May 2024 17:25:53, <a href="http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/">Miloš Radovanović</a>.</i>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Mon, 06 May 2024 17:25:53 +0300</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><a href="http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic16346/message56771/">Sad news ...</a></b> in forum <a href="http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/">The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client</a>. <br />
			After an extended conversation with my ISP I have learned that they are terminating<br />the use of &#39;third party&#39; apps like The Bat, Outlook etc etc.with their service.<br /><br />In the future, anyone who signs up with the ISP will be forced to write/check their <br /><br />e-mail in one of two locations:<br />1. At their website<br />2. At the Yahoo Mail website<br /><br />This is horrible news. I asked the agent to give me the reason they are doing this.<br />He couldn&#39;t come up with anything that made sense. The usual &#39;security&#39; reasons etc.<br /><br />For years I could connect to my ISP with The Bat (after giving The Bat my e-mail address and password).<br />Then a few years ago my ISP started to make things difficult. They wouldn&#39;t allow me to create a password.<br />They created one for me and forced me to use it if I wanted to use The Bat (or any third party software).<br /><br />And now they are putting the nail in the coffin. They are refusing to even issue their own password!<br /><br />By any chance, does The Bat have another way to gain access to my e-mail account with my ISP? <br />
			<i>05 May 2024 03:23:08, <a href="http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/">Mad Batter</a>.</i>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 05 May 2024 03:23:08 +0300</pubDate>
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