http://www.ritlabs.com New posts in v11 message list wider line spacing? of forum at www.ritlabs.com [www.ritlabs.com] en http://backend.userland.com/rss2 Wed, 25 Jun 2025 04:19:38 +0300 v11 message list wider line spacing? in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.

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Miloš Radovanović wrote:
Full-height Account tree
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Somehow I missed this last response to my post.
I'm using Horizontal Split, which also provides a full height tree -- 43 lines on my setup. I'm really doing OK on the account tree now that I've changed the font. I'm more bothered by the appearance, which to my eyes is just weirdly open.

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Miloš Radovanović wrote:
Making sub-folders is the way to go, and collapsing the more rarely used folders.
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Yeah, I have a lot of subfolders. My setup could stand a lot of reorganizing, but it's not bad enough to be worth taking time from other things. Hey, I'm 76yo, if this lasts another 20 years then I won't be around to worry about it!
25 June 2025 04:19:38, Edward Reid.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic16562/message57980/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic16562/message57980/ Wed, 25 Jun 2025 04:19:38 +0300 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client v11 message list wider line spacing? in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.

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Edward Reid wrote:
I still hope that Ritlabs will give us more control over the spacing. I'm sure that Bat users, on the average, have many more folders than, say, most webmail users.
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Maybe you already use this, but here's a way to get a lot of vertical space for the account trees: Workspace -> Window Split Mode -> Full-height Account tree. On my 16 by 10 laptop screen it gives me 42 lines with my font settings. Nice round number

Anyway, no matter how many lines are squeezed in, it never seems to be enough. Making sub-folders is the way to go, and collapsing the more rarely used folders.
07 May 2025 20:32:55, Miloš Radovanović.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic16562/message57853/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic16562/message57853/ Wed, 07 May 2025 20:32:55 +0300 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client v11 message list wider line spacing? in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.

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Zygmunt Wereszczyński wrote:
What about Options | Preferences | System | Account tree font ?
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Ah, thanks. I changed that to Verdana also, resulting in a significant improvement.

I still hope that Ritlabs will give us more control over the spacing. I'm sure that Bat users, on the average, have many more folders than, say, most webmail users.
07 May 2025 19:50:31, Edward Reid.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic16562/message57852/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic16562/message57852/ Wed, 07 May 2025 19:50:31 +0300 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client v11 message list wider line spacing? in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.

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Edward Reid wrote:
Unfortunately, AFAIK there's no control over the font in the folder list. Folders and accounts which I could previously see on screen are now only visible by scrolling.
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What about Options | Preferences | System | Account tree font ?
04 May 2025 11:19:33, Zygmunt Wereszczyński.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic16562/message57839/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic16562/message57839/ Sun, 04 May 2025 11:19:33 +0300 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client v11 message list wider line spacing? in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.

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Miloš Radovanović wrote:
Hmm, it's not clear whether this is a generic "leave us alone" response or if they really changed something.
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I interpreted it as affirming that something changed but saying that there's no easy way to go back.

Playing with the font was a good idea. I was using Noto Sans 9. Changing it to Verdana 9 results in a significantly more compact message list with no reduction in legibility. Perhaps they changed how font metrics are used.

Unfortunately, AFAIK there's no control over the font in the folder list. Folders and accounts which I could previously see on screen are now only visible by scrolling.
04 May 2025 05:23:51, Edward Reid.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic16562/message57838/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic16562/message57838/ Sun, 04 May 2025 05:23:51 +0300 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client v11 message list wider line spacing? in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.

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Edward Reid wrote:
Support response is "At this point there is no way to revert back to older settings of lists display. We will forward your suggestion to the developers.".
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Hmm, it's not clear whether this is a generic "leave us alone" response or if they really changed something. Honestly, I haven't noticed a difference between v10 and 11.

Font and font size can also have an impact, try playing around with that in Options -> Preferences... -> Message List. Maybe the updated version changed your previous settings to its defaults. I recall something like this happening to me once, between older versions.
03 May 2025 20:31:34, Miloš Radovanović.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic16562/message57831/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic16562/message57831/ Sat, 03 May 2025 20:31:34 +0300 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client v11 message list wider line spacing? in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.
Support response is "At this point there is no way to revert back to older settings of lists display. We will forward your suggestion to the developers.".
02 May 2025 15:26:09, Edward Reid.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic16562/message57826/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic16562/message57826/ Fri, 02 May 2025 15:26:09 +0300 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client v11 message list wider line spacing? in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.
Thanks, Miloš. I find I already have that option set. I'm sure I set it years ago. That's probably why I have that vague memory of having dealt with this in the past.

I tested. With "denser" set, I see 30 lines in the message list. Reset, 28 lines. That's not much difference, leading me to believe that the option is less effective in v11 than in v10.

The difference in the folder list is similar but perhaps a little greater. I am more concerned about the message list.

OK, I have created a support ticket.  
01 May 2025 19:50:12, Edward Reid.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic16562/message57824/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic16562/message57824/ Thu, 01 May 2025 19:50:12 +0300 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client v11 message list wider line spacing? in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.
I think this is what you need: Options -> Preferences... -> Other options -> Use denser display of items for folder and message lists

For this and other options like it, see here: https://www.ritlabs.com/en/auth-forums/forum4/topic14738/message56884/#message56884
01 May 2025 09:06:11, Miloš Radovanović.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic16562/message57823/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic16562/message57823/ Thu, 01 May 2025 09:06:11 +0300 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client v11 message list wider line spacing? in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.
I bit the bullet and upgraded to v11 -- 11.4.1 to be specific -- from 10.5. I waited it out last year due to seeing the many complaints here.


I wish I had taken a screen shot first!

It appears to me that the message list now has much wider line spacing, resulting in fewer messages on screen. And maybe smaller font size too. How much of this is real, and how much is my imagination due to being alert for changes?

And is there any way to control this? I have a vague memory that maybe this issue came up in the past, but I'm not sure.

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/2brsavmcar3n3l70wp70w/message-list-open-spacing.jpg?rlkey=o05kjm52o61...


Edward
01 May 2025 06:21:04, Edward Reid.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic16562/message57822/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic16562/message57822/ Thu, 01 May 2025 06:21:04 +0300 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client