http://www.ritlabs.com New posts in Configuring Bayes Filter Plugin of forum at www.ritlabs.com [www.ritlabs.com] en http://backend.userland.com/rss2 Tue, 22 Nov 2005 13:31:40 +0200 Configuring Bayes Filter Plugin in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.
oops - I'm sorry - looking at the first post again, I see, you're using Bayes Filter Plugin by Achim Winkler, NOT BayesIt! by Alexey Vinogradov, on which my comment would have been valid... maybe not my day today... (however: with BayesIt! you CAN set that option... perhaps it might be worth a try anyway?!)

22 November 2005 13:31:40, nlkes.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic2129/message8949/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic2129/message8949/ Tue, 22 Nov 2005 13:31:40 +0200 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client Configuring Bayes Filter Plugin in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.

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nlkes wrote:
by the way: regarding the edit dialog of the current BayesIt you're wrong about the comparison against all mail text - though this is the standard behaviour, you can change the white-list rules to only look at particular header lines
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Thanks for your comments and the information.  How/where does one make the change that you mention?

G'Jim
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22 November 2005 06:53:37, GJim307.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic2129/message8939/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic2129/message8939/ Tue, 22 Nov 2005 06:53:37 +0200 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client Configuring Bayes Filter Plugin in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.
I would only add addresses to the white list if it seems impossible to handle mails from those addresses as non-spam - nearly everything should work fine with a well-tuned bayesian filter... (just do not forget to feed enough non-spam!)

two examples for white-listing in my installation are: the mailer-daemon of my own ISP and a very special (etymological) mailing list which simply cannot be handled as it uses "weird words"

by the way: regarding the edit dialog of the current BayesIt you're wrong about the comparison against all mail text - though this is the standard behaviour, you can change the white-list rules to only look at particular header lines
22 November 2005 05:48:06, nlkes.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic2129/message8933/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic2129/message8933/ Tue, 22 Nov 2005 05:48:06 +0200 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client Configuring Bayes Filter Plugin in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.
Thanks, Roelof, for your reply.

The problem is that the white/black-lists are not compared against just the sender's EMail address.  The lists are compared against the entire message, the complete headers, the text, etc.

So, if your EMail address is in the Bayes white-list, then any message, whether it be 'spam' or 'ham', will be given a non-spam rating if your EMail address appears anywhere in the message.

I have tested this, and I know this to be correct.

Currently, the only solution seems to be to keep the feature turned off to auto-add to the white-list.

Perhaps a future version will have a 'do not add' list.

G'Jim
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19 November 2005 09:46:58, GJim307.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic2129/message8881/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic2129/message8881/ Sat, 19 Nov 2005 09:46:58 +0200 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client Configuring Bayes Filter Plugin in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.
I don't use BayesFilter myself, but I guess it advises against whitelisting your own address as y you would receive much good mail with your address in the From header.
Apparently you get valid mail from your own address. Just let BayesFilter do its thing. If you receive spam with your address in the from and BayesFilter lets it pass then it's soon enough to take couintermeasures. (I don't think I ever got spammed with my own address in the from header.)
19 November 2005 07:29:06, Roelof Otten.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic2129/message8880/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic2129/message8880/ Sat, 19 Nov 2005 07:29:06 +0200 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client Configuring Bayes Filter Plugin in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.
I'm using TheBat! v 3.62.14 with Bayes Filter Plugin v 2.0.4 .. and, I have a question about configuration.

In the help file that comes with the Bayes plug in, in the section that discusses editing of the White List, it specifically states that you should not add your own EMail address to the White List.  That's quite understandable; but, if you turn on the feature to Auto-insert Ham Senders to the White List AND if you belong to EMail discussion groups where your EMail address is shown in messages posted, then the Auto-insert adds your EMail to the White List.

Is there some sort of a 'do not add' function somewhere that can be used to tell the Bayes filter not to add certain addresses to the White List?

AtDhVaAnNkCsE
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18 November 2005 19:04:00, GJim307.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic2129/message8871/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic2129/message8871/ Fri, 18 Nov 2005 19:04:00 +0200 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client