http://www.ritlabs.com New posts in html and pictures attachments of forum at www.ritlabs.com [www.ritlabs.com] en http://backend.userland.com/rss2 Fri, 16 Mar 2007 03:29:46 +0200 html and pictures attachments html and pictures attachments in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.
I like The Bat and have been messing with it for a few days. I won't use a program unless it has html viewing. Sweet program though!!
16 March 2007 03:29:46, Taylor W.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic3538/message16880/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic3538/message16880/ Fri, 16 Mar 2007 03:29:46 +0200 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client html and pictures attachments html and pictures attachments in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.
The Bat ROCKS!!!  Except I cannot use it because I absolutely require HTML view/edit capabilities.  What a shame.  I though every email client on the planet had this capability?  How hard can that be?  Bummer.
12 March 2007 00:28:47, Tom Lewis.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic3538/message16784/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic3538/message16784/ Mon, 12 Mar 2007 00:28:47 +0200 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client html and pictures attachments html and pictures attachments in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.

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...you would have seen the feature started then sidelined by the silghtly greater need for Vista compatibilty and compliance. But, hey, why spoil a good rant with a fact or two?

It is still on the way.
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Sidelined? For at least seven years?? That's how long I've been using TB and that's how long people have been clamoring for inline images. Give me a break.


28 February 2007 15:39:56, J Wayne.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic3538/message16569/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic3538/message16569/ Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:39:56 +0200 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client html and pictures attachments html and pictures attachments in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.

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Jim Drews writes:
But no, it's yet another version that is released without this critical feature.

What a joke this has turned out to be.
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Your post is a bit irksome. They did add a button that was to do that - something I am also waiting for. There have been a lot of updates and fixes on the way to this release. That translates to a lot of work - no joke!

28 February 2007 11:08:21, Rick G.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic3538/message16553/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic3538/message16553/ Wed, 28 Feb 2007 11:08:21 +0200 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client html and pictures attachments html and pictures attachments in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.
Had you been truly interested in this feature, I would have thought you'd have joined the beta test programme, if only to fact find.

Had you done so, you would have seen the feature started then sidelined by the silghtly greater need for Vista compatibilty and compliance. But, hey, why spoil a good rant with a fact or two?

It is still on the way.
28 February 2007 10:01:44, Marck Pearlstone.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic3538/message16551/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic3538/message16551/ Wed, 28 Feb 2007 10:01:44 +0200 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client html and pictures attachments html and pictures attachments in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.
Wow, a new version came out today! I quickly scan the new features expecting to see that long desired feature that will finally bring The Bat into the mainstream - embedded images! Will Marck's message from 9/12/06 ("The next beta series promises to implement this feature at long last. So - Jeremy B - polish up your credit card!") finally come true?

But no, it's yet another version that is released without this critical feature.  

What a joke this has turned out to be.
28 February 2007 02:59:49, J Wayne.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic3538/message16541/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic3538/message16541/ Wed, 28 Feb 2007 02:59:49 +0200 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client html and pictures attachments html and pictures attachments in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.

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Alexandros T writes:
One advice: I think that the best way to implement this, is by giving 3 options:

1. block all images 2. show all images 3. show images from safe senders
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I would add one more thing. A simple "display images" button that would allow you to download images per email without necessarily having to put the address in a whitelist. Thunderbird has been doing this for a long time and it works well.



25 February 2007 21:02:23, Jim Drews.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic3538/message16507/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic3538/message16507/ Sun, 25 Feb 2007 21:02:23 +0200 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client html and pictures attachments html and pictures attachments in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.
not yet
22 December 2006 01:25:12, Roelof Otten.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic3538/message15269/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic3538/message15269/ Fri, 22 Dec 2006 01:25:12 +0200 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client html and pictures attachments html and pictures attachments in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.
When will a beta version support this? Does the x-max version have it?
21 December 2006 20:17:05, Peter B..]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic3538/message15260/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic3538/message15260/ Thu, 21 Dec 2006 20:17:05 +0200 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client html and pictures attachments html and pictures attachments in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.
I was trying a lot of email clients during this week, since I want to switch from Outlook to something else.

After my tests, I found that TheBat was the winner, but this behavior (blocking inline pictures) was very frustrating. The current post did send me straight to the checkout page

One advice:
I think that the best way to implement this, is by giving 3 options:

1. block all images
2. show all images
3. show images from safe senders

So, each time we receive such an email, the default behaviour would be to block all images (as it is now), but TB could give me the choice to add the sender to a whitelist...

This would be flexible and secure enough...
21 December 2006 14:44:37, Alexandros T.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic3538/message15248/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic3538/message15248/ Thu, 21 Dec 2006 14:44:37 +0200 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client html and pictures attachments html and pictures attachments in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.
I am not a developer, so I can't tell You exact date. There are more reasons, why development of some features can be longer. I have tested it, it works, but some things are not ready for betatesting yet, this is reason why it will not be in upcoming final release yet.
15 December 2006 01:34:43, Marek Mikus.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic3538/message15133/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic3538/message15133/ Fri, 15 Dec 2006 01:34:43 +0200 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client html and pictures attachments html and pictures attachments in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.

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Marek Mikus writes:
AFAIK downloading images feature will be introduced soon
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I just have one question (or two.) Since "soon" is a relative term, how exactly do you personally define it? The reason I ask is because 3 months ago in this same thread you also said it would be ready "soon."

I think the minimum definition of soon in this case has already been established as 3 months, so what is the maximum definition? 6 months? A year?
15 December 2006 01:26:06, Jim Drews.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic3538/message15132/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic3538/message15132/ Fri, 15 Dec 2006 01:26:06 +0200 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client html and pictures attachments html and pictures attachments in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.
AFAIK downloading images feature will be introduced soon, big part is already finished, but it seems there will be not introduced in upcoming final, because some things like HTTPS are not yet ready and this needs time for implementing and testing.
14 December 2006 23:55:42, Marek Mikus.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic3538/message15131/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic3538/message15131/ Thu, 14 Dec 2006 23:55:42 +0200 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client html and pictures attachments html and pictures attachments in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.
Any update on this? It seems this is not in the latest betas...

John
14 December 2006 22:35:49, John Campion.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic3538/message15128/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic3538/message15128/ Thu, 14 Dec 2006 22:35:49 +0200 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client html and pictures attachments html and pictures attachments in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.
http://republika.pl/konrad_sz/tb/htmlpics.htm
Pictures in HTML mails - description in polish language
22 October 2006 21:50:28, Sebastian Murawski.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic3538/message14397/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic3538/message14397/ Sun, 22 Oct 2006 21:50:28 +0300 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client html and pictures attachments html and pictures attachments in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.
Wow,
I tried the bat, liked it, except for its removal of html images in the preview, so returned to OE (more reliable than thunderbird IMO), but not it seems The Bat may be worth another look... soon, that is.
Mark.
17 October 2006 01:07:28, Mark Palmos.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic3538/message14329/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic3538/message14329/ Tue, 17 Oct 2006 01:07:28 +0300 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client html and pictures attachments html and pictures attachments in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.

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Marek Mikus writes:
so please wait, it will be soon.
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Well, it's been over a month...how closer to "soon" are we?  

17 October 2006 00:12:21, Jim Drews.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic3538/message14328/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic3538/message14328/ Tue, 17 Oct 2006 00:12:21 +0300 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client html and pictures attachments html and pictures attachments in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.
That is some great news I hear. Fantastic
16 October 2006 16:40:39, Darrin Rich.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic3538/message14320/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic3538/message14320/ Mon, 16 Oct 2006 16:40:39 +0300 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client html and pictures attachments html and pictures attachments in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.

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Marek Mikus wrote:
downloading images is working,
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Now THAT is the best news I've heard in awhile! I'm currently using Thunderbird mainly but will be more than happy to return to The Bat when the "download images" feature is implemented.

13 September 2006 02:37:22, Jim Drews.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic3538/message13783/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic3538/message13783/ Wed, 13 Sep 2006 02:37:22 +0300 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client html and pictures attachments html and pictures attachments in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.
downloading images is working, but some additional things like GUI changes are not finished yet, so please wait, it will be soon.
12 September 2006 14:42:32, Marek Mikus.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic3538/message13764/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic3538/message13764/ Tue, 12 Sep 2006 14:42:32 +0300 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client html and pictures attachments html and pictures attachments in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.
And how many time we will have to wait for this fantastic new beta?
12 September 2006 14:39:06, zocrat.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic3538/message13762/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic3538/message13762/ Tue, 12 Sep 2006 14:39:06 +0300 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client html and pictures attachments html and pictures attachments in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.
Or ... you actually could hold your breath if you like.

The next beta series promises to implement this feature at long last. So - Jeremy B - polish up your credit card!
12 September 2006 14:13:42, Marck Pearlstone.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic3538/message13760/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic3538/message13760/ Tue, 12 Sep 2006 14:13:42 +0300 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client html and pictures attachments html and pictures attachments in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.
Don't hold your breath. Ritlabs has seemingly never cared to address this need, which has been requested by many, many users. They are stuck in the text-only past and apparently don't trust their own users with giving them an OPTION to display image links. Probably have lost a lot of customers because of this short-sighted decision.

At this point I consider the omission "a bug not a feature" and will never pay for another upgrade until they fix it.
12 September 2006 14:05:16, Jeremy B.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic3538/message13759/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic3538/message13759/ Tue, 12 Sep 2006 14:05:16 +0300 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client html and pictures attachments html and pictures attachments in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.

I'm a The Bat! user and I'm still wondering why The Bat! forces you to open an html attachment to view html messages with inserted pictures.

I also find useless to force the attachment of all the pictures you insert when writing a mail in the way that when receivers open mails they watch pictures twice.

I know the reasons that Ritlabs stands for this (you can read them here: http://www.ritlabs.com/kb/idx/0/017/article/) but I think that would be really interesting to include
a check box in Preferences were you could choose between:
- The Bat! classic behaviour (by default) or
- an Outlook behavior (and where I say Outlook I could say any other mail client)

I think that with an option like this The Bat! would definitely rock all other mail clients.

Thanks in advance.
12 September 2006 13:52:39, zocrat.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic3538/message13758/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic3538/message13758/ Tue, 12 Sep 2006 13:52:39 +0300 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client