http://www.ritlabs.com New posts in The Bat! and Voyager of forum at www.ritlabs.com [www.ritlabs.com] en http://backend.userland.com/rss2 Sat, 14 Oct 2006 02:12:07 +0300 The Bat! and Voyager in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.
It works with two Voyagers. I done-it the following way. Install the Voyager on the hard disk of my PC. Set the folders for you accounts somewhere on the hardisk outside from the voyager folder. Sync from The Bat!.
Duplicate all your accounts, adding the suffix USB to their names with folder's path situated inside the USB key.
If you want to travel with some mails from your PC (you probably don't want all for room reasons), create  a special accont, or a special folder STOCK for it, and set his path to a folder in your USB voyager folder.

Create 3 adress books in the Voyager folder, one named PC with a path in the  PC voyager folder, an other named USB will be named temp with a path somewhere in the USB key. Synch your PC and USB adress books with the one you had in the BAT! for instance.
Ok, now, duplicate the voyager folder on your USB key .

Duplicate all your accounts, adding the suffix USB to their names with folder's path on default.

Return to the PC voyager; duplicate all your accounts, adding the suffix USB to their names with folder's path absolute to the USB corespondig folders.



That's it. The twoo apps are identical now.
You can use any of them from your pc.
Copy the mails you want to bring with you when travelling in your STOCK folder.
When you travel, Fetch your mail from the USB's accounts, and record new adress in your temp adress book. When you're back, you just have to moove your Usb mails to the main corresponding accounts and new adresses to the two adress books, that's all and it is fast and simple.
And, if you loose your USB key, just copy the Voyager folder to a new one.

After some testing, Voyager is just junk. The two apps modifies each others, impossible to set for folder a default path on the USB AND an absolute one on the PC. Makes lot of warnings if a folder is not present (USB absent).
Devs who can design a mobile app for The Bat! without a simple way to sync and share folders are just martians, and using such a lot Windows registry instead of an inifile is just bad designing !!!!!

This will only work when:
-The two instances of Voyager have to be Independant and no instances limitations.
-The accounts setting (name and paths) have to be in a ini in each app folder, and not in the folder it-self..
-The Mails folder have to can be shared without any problem.
-The warnings for missing folders have to can be deactivated (account can change his color if no folder found, for an example).

14 October 2006 02:12:07, christophe esperado.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic3671/message14283/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic3671/message14283/ Sat, 14 Oct 2006 02:12:07 +0300 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client The Bat! and Voyager in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.

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Roelof Otten wrote:
You cannot use the same folders with TB and Voyager, one reason is that Voyager needs its stuff on the removable media where the program is stored and TB needs its message base always accessible, so removable media are a bad idea.
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As it is possible to have as many accounts as you like, each one whith a folder situated where you like, it is just a pity. I would like to have an account on my USBkey where are the mails fetched on travel, and an account with a folder of one hard disk on my Home PC, where  i can moove messages from the 'traveling folder' of my USBKEY with a simple frag and drop or copy/paste. And to can use this folder from the Bat! (or an othe voyager on my pc if i do not have my USB KEY.
An easy way to be sync....


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It isn't possible to sync between the two programs, because there are distinct differences between the two applications even though they seem so very much alike.
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As much different as Outlook and the app of my palm, perfectly sync with one button action?
Please, it is not serious, mails are texts, and it is apps that you can write as you like (i'm one of the devs of a mail/news server).
And you cannot do this anyway from two different the bat! installations on the same PC.
So it is just a BAD conception of the Bat! and voager.


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When you really want to synchronize regularly betweeen yourmail client on the desktop and on your removable media the I suggest that you install Voyager on your harddisk too. I believe that you can sync between two instances of Voyager, even though it's still the three step process it is with the regular TB, that's because you cannot run two instances of Voyager on the same computer at the same time.
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I'am not sure to understand what you tell. Can-I share the same folders with the same datas from two voyagers installations ? (one on my pc, one on my USBkey ?)


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Another way to keep your mail synchromized is by telling both clients to keep their mail on the server for x days where x is so big that you can be reasonable sure that both clients have been able to download all mail. And also set your templates to cc or bcc all of the messages you generate to yourself, so that both clients contain your outgoing mail as well.
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It is a very unuseful suggestion: i receive hundred spams a day.

To conclude, and if i understand well, the Bat! and Voyager are two different apps, looking similar but not usable togheter in a synchronisable way, as can be Outlook and any mail app on a palm pilot !!!!
So stupid
13 October 2006 18:50:31, christophe esperado.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic3671/message14279/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic3671/message14279/ Fri, 13 Oct 2006 18:50:31 +0300 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client The Bat! and Voyager in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.
You cannot use the same folders with TB and Voyager, one reason is that Voyager needs its stuff on the removable media where the program is stored and TB needs its message base always accessible, so removable media are a bad idea.

It isn't possible to sync between the two programs, because there are distinct differences between the two applications even though they seem so very much alike.
When you really want to synchronize regularly betweeen yourmail client on the desktop and on your removable media the I suggest that you install Voyager on your harddisk too. I believe that you can sync between two instances of Voyager, even though it's still the three step process it is with the regular TB, that's because you cannot run two instances of Voyager on the same computer at the same time.

Another way to keep your mail synchromized is by telling both clients to keep their mail on the server for x days where x is so big that you can be reasonable sure that both clients have been able to download all mail. And also set your templates to cc or bcc all of the messages you generate to yourself, so that both clients contain your outgoing mail as well.
13 October 2006 11:00:13, Roelof Otten.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic3671/message14261/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic3671/message14261/ Fri, 13 Oct 2006 11:00:13 +0300 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client The Bat! and Voyager in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.
I would like to share the same folders on some accounts between The bat! pro and voyager. Even if i indicate the same path, it is not working.


Also, i am searching a way to synchronize the two apps with *one* button. Like Outlook and my palm, for an example. Any solution ?
If it is not possible, what is the use of those twoo apps ?


12 October 2006 21:59:47, christophe esperado.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic3671/message14258/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic3671/message14258/ Thu, 12 Oct 2006 21:59:47 +0300 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client