http://www.ritlabs.com New posts in Screen Shots of Version 4 of forum at www.ritlabs.com [www.ritlabs.com] en http://backend.userland.com/rss2 Wed, 23 Jan 2008 03:18:39 +0200 Screen Shots of Version 4 in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.
that's great!  
23 January 2008 03:18:39, Mika Commando.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic5537/message21216/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic5537/message21216/ Wed, 23 Jan 2008 03:18:39 +0200 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client Screen Shots of Version 4 in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.
Thank you, Dominik.
23 January 2008 02:49:18, Bubba TAM.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic5537/message21215/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic5537/message21215/ Wed, 23 Jan 2008 02:49:18 +0200 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client Screen Shots of Version 4 in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.

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Is it known yet if upgrade to v4, from 3.xx, will require uninstall/install .. or, will there be an "update" capability from 3 to 4?
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AFAICT from the alpha reports you can just install over the old version.
22 January 2008 20:48:55, Dominik Reichardt.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic5537/message21212/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic5537/message21212/ Tue, 22 Jan 2008 20:48:55 +0200 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client Screen Shots of Version 4 in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.
Version 4 will solve the Chinese problem, since it will have a new, Unicode-based text editor and viewer.
22 January 2008 17:23:52, Maxim Masiutin.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic5537/message21211/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic5537/message21211/ Tue, 22 Jan 2008 17:23:52 +0200 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client Screen Shots of Version 4 in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.
Is it known yet if upgrade to v4, from 3.xx, will require uninstall/install .. or, will there be an "update" capability from 3 to 4?
22 January 2008 16:50:31, Bubba TAM.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic5537/message21209/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic5537/message21209/ Tue, 22 Jan 2008 16:50:31 +0200 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client Screen Shots of Version 4 in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.
Since TB is open source, I was very tempted to download it and have a play. The problem is a lack of good docs on how to get started compiling it, and the fact that it uses so many different technologies.

On the other hand, it does have an excellent HTML rendering engine. You can add custom CSS to it as well, which means you can default HTML mail to use white text on a black background but allow complex HTML mail to override the settings (e.g. eBay mails that use tables).

Other things about it suck a lot though, like the way mail is stored.

That is why I'm holding out for TB4. Becky is almost perfect, and being Japanese it obviously has excellent Japanese support, but it uses IE for HTML rendering. If it could just use Firefox instead...
22 January 2008 01:59:26, mojo-chan.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic5537/message21197/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic5537/message21197/ Tue, 22 Jan 2008 01:59:26 +0200 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client Screen Shots of Version 4 in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.
Hi Marek,
When I reply or forward email to someone, if the mail header include the space, then some characters can not be showed correctly, even header is English.
Here we have common realize, TB doesn't support Chinese very well, at least I feel in mail header, it is true.
I just heard, TB4 supports utf-8, will it be more better?
Thanks.
20 January 2008 09:07:47, Mika Commando.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic5537/message21161/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic5537/message21161/ Sun, 20 Jan 2008 09:07:47 +0200 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client Screen Shots of Version 4 in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.
Mika, can You describe what is chinese problem?
20 January 2008 08:10:15, Marek Mikus.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic5537/message21160/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic5537/message21160/ Sun, 20 Jan 2008 08:10:15 +0200 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client Screen Shots of Version 4 in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.
Bigg one, do You really think, that

downloading images to HTML
new images viewer
new plaintext editor and viewer
new feature for monitoring history of communication
completely reworked tabs and folder pane
new searching in viewer
decoding Microsoft's MS-TNEF format

and others, these are not significant changes?
20 January 2008 08:09:50, Marek Mikus.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic5537/message21159/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic5537/message21159/ Sun, 20 Jan 2008 08:09:50 +0200 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client Screen Shots of Version 4 in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.
Hi,
Does TB 4 solve the Chinese problem? It's confused me so long time.
Once perfect in Chinese, I will purchase it without any hesitation.
20 January 2008 07:12:30, Mika Commando.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic5537/message21158/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic5537/message21158/ Sun, 20 Jan 2008 07:12:30 +0200 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client Screen Shots of Version 4 in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.

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I almost switched to Thunderbird, but it doesn't support default templates which is a bit of a joke for a 2.x program.
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I HAD switched to Thunderbird during the 0.8beta phase and missed the great template stuff TB! brings, so I switched back again.
You *could* make use of the QuickNote extension for Thunderbird, though. That extension is slowly getting massive and usefull as far as I could see on browsing their site.
But then Thunderbird is still too large for me both program wise and the size of the memory footprint. I also don't like that you need all kinds of extensions for esential stuff (like deleting attachments from messages).
19 January 2008 18:34:37, Dominik Reichardt.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic5537/message21149/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic5537/message21149/ Sat, 19 Jan 2008 18:34:37 +0200 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client Screen Shots of Version 4 in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.
The image display in HTML mails has been rather improved in v4, for the rest, just wait and see.
19 January 2008 01:36:59, Roelof Otten.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic5537/message21147/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic5537/message21147/ Sat, 19 Jan 2008 01:36:59 +0200 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client Screen Shots of Version 4 in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.
If there are significant new features then why the delay?

I was only really waiting for improved Japanese support and image display in HTML mails (currently you can't click the link in eBay mails to respond). I almost switched to Thunderbird, but it doesn't support default templates which is a bit of a joke for a 2.x program.
19 January 2008 00:56:09, mojo-chan.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic5537/message21146/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic5537/message21146/ Sat, 19 Jan 2008 00:56:09 +0200 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client Screen Shots of Version 4 in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.
delays in releasing new versions is something so common in the software industry that you should be surprised only in the vary rare cases when something is released on the announced date or earlier.
If I correctly remember what has been posted in recent threads about upgrade policy, if you buy 3.x now you can later upgrade to 4.x for free. So if you like theBat buy it now. BTW I tested the 4 alpha and it doesn't have any significant new features that justify a new major version number(at least from my point of view)  
18 January 2008 19:25:17, bigg one.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic5537/message21140/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic5537/message21140/ Fri, 18 Jan 2008 19:25:17 +0200 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client Screen Shots of Version 4 in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.
Hang on, you mean TB 4.0 was announced on 09/06/2007, with the headline "final preparations for 4.0", then again on 10/02/2007, and yet it's now January and it's still in ALPHA testing?!

I've been hanging on for so long now, I think I'm just going to buy Becky and be done with it.
18 January 2008 01:50:07, mojo-chan.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic5537/message21129/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic5537/message21129/ Fri, 18 Jan 2008 01:50:07 +0200 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client Screen Shots of Version 4 in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.

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Maxim Masiutin writes:
... To get alpha or beta versions of The Bat!, ... just send an e-mail to tbbeta-join@thebat.dutain­­t.com
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Thanks, Maxim.  That e-mail address isn't working for me, though.

13 January 2008 07:47:42, wocius wei.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic5537/message21051/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic5537/message21051/ Sun, 13 Jan 2008 07:47:42 +0200 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client Screen Shots of Version 4 in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.
Version 4 of The Bat! is currently in testing state (alptha state). To get alpha or beta versions of The Bat!, please subscribe to TBBETA mailing list. To subscribe to TBBETA, just send an e-mail to tbbeta-join@thebat.dutain­t.com , then post the message to the list and ask how can you get the lastest beta. The list subscribers will reply to you.

If you would like to discuss alpha or beta versions of The Bat!, please feel free to discuss them in the TBBETA mailing list.  
11 January 2008 10:46:06, Maxim Masiutin.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic5537/message21030/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic5537/message21030/ Fri, 11 Jan 2008 10:46:06 +0200 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client Screen Shots of Version 4 in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.
Neat.  Does this mean there really will be a version 4?
11 January 2008 04:29:40, wocius wei.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic5537/message21023/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic5537/message21023/ Fri, 11 Jan 2008 04:29:40 +0200 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client Screen Shots of Version 4 in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.
Thank you Dominik.  There is really very little to see..  Does anyone have the program running..?  Could they post some screen shots?  I use Faststone Viewer to make screen shots if anyone is wondering how to make them.

Thanks  Thomas
10 January 2008 16:35:08, Thomas Dahl.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic5537/message21017/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic5537/message21017/ Thu, 10 Jan 2008 16:35:08 +0200 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client Screen Shots of Version 4 in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.
http://www.batboard.net/index.php?topic=8457.0 in this thread of the unofficial German forum a couple of screenshots are seen. Nothing all to specific though. I hope this is not against the forum rules here.
10 January 2008 15:10:10, Dominik Reichardt.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic5537/message21015/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic5537/message21015/ Thu, 10 Jan 2008 15:10:10 +0200 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client Screen Shots of Version 4 in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.
There seem to be some Alpha versions of version 4 around.  I cannot risk installing non final versions as I use my email hourly for business.  Does anyone know where I can see some screeen shots..?  I would be very interested in the new editor..

Thomas
10 January 2008 13:05:50, Thomas Dahl.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic5537/message21013/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic5537/message21013/ Thu, 10 Jan 2008 13:05:50 +0200 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client