http://www.ritlabs.com New posts in Too Many Little Bugs? of forum at www.ritlabs.com [www.ritlabs.com] en http://backend.userland.com/rss2 Tue, 24 Jun 2008 21:32:04 +0300 Too Many Little Bugs? New User Trialing The Bat & Unsure in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.
@ Felipe:
If disabling the X-Mailer header doesn't let your messages pass, it might be the content of your messages. Is there any difference (content wise) between your TB messages and those with another client?

@ rdean:
There is no obligation whatsoever to carry an X-Mailer header, though certain anti spam tools iterpret a lacking Mailer or X-Mailer header as a heightened spam risk.

@ both:
If merely disabling the X-Mailer header doesn't work, you might insert a User-Agent header (unfortunately you can't alter the contents of the X-Mailer header)
In order to insert a User-Agent header you've got to define it first (as TB doesn't know it) at:
Options -> Preferences -> Message headers -> Add
Most of the stuff you enter there is irrelevant, but the RFC name has to be User-Agent
Now you can set a value to it with the SetHeader macro in your templates, here's an example that I've been using:
%SetHeader("User-Agent","Mijn kleine vleermuis %TheBatVersion")%-
24 June 2008 21:32:04, Roelof Otten.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic5967/message24053/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic5967/message24053/ Tue, 24 Jun 2008 21:32:04 +0300 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client Too Many Little Bugs? New User Trialing The Bat & Unsure in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.
Does disabling the x-mail header violate e-mail standards?
24 June 2008 15:16:27, rdean61.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic5967/message24052/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic5967/message24052/ Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:16:27 +0300 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client Too Many Little Bugs? New User Trialing The Bat & Unsure in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.
Not working for me,

it wont get through, but if i use another mail client, it will . . .
22 June 2008 19:39:18, Felipe Mannshardt.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic5967/message24028/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic5967/message24028/ Sun, 22 Jun 2008 19:39:18 +0300 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client Too Many Little Bugs? New User Trialing The Bat & Unsure in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.
The easiest solution for TB not being intercepted as a spammer's tool is by disabling the x-mailer header.
options -> preferences -> general -> disable 'use x-mailer header'
24 March 2008 18:37:47, Roelof Otten.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic5967/message22791/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic5967/message22791/ Mon, 24 Mar 2008 18:37:47 +0200 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client Too Many Little Bugs? New User Trialing The Bat & Unsure in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.
They have been working on that in the beta group and it may have been in one of the post releases where it was fixed - again I am not positive

I have heard of the Bat being considered a spammer's tool. I have not had the problem. There was a discussion about that in the beta group and I think they were getting around it by removing the X MAILER information from the header but I would ask in TBUDL to get the answer from someone who really KNOWS

Strangely the reason the Bat is a "spam tool" is the powerful Newletter feature where you can send out mails to "Dear Tom, Dear Dick, Dear Harry" etc.
24 March 2008 18:37:23, Rick G.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic5967/message22790/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic5967/message22790/ Mon, 24 Mar 2008 18:37:23 +0200 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client Too Many Little Bugs? New User Trialing The Bat & Unsure in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.
Thanks for the info, Rick G.

I'm really liking what I see so far with The Bat but was a little unsure. The "add words" feature is definitely NOT fixed yet. BTW, I'm using version 4.0.18.

With those Amazon HTML emails, nothing is showing in the URL Manager at all when those images don't show. It looks to be logo banner at the top and some of the icons next to ordered items in order confirmation emails. I've already added a half dozen Amazon-related URLs to the allowed list but those images still do not show and that "reload images" item on the globe button is just always grayed out.

One other thing that worries me a bit is that I've read The Bat is considered (erroneously) as a spammer's tool by a lot of ISPs and is filtered for that "reason." Have you ever encountered a problem because of this?

Thanks again.
24 March 2008 18:24:58, kmb63.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic5967/message22787/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic5967/message22787/ Mon, 24 Mar 2008 18:24:58 +0200 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client Too Many Little Bugs? New User Trialing The Bat & Unsure in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.
You didn't mention what version you are using but the HTML rendering is fairly new and is a work in progress. They are working out some other bugs in the current beta cycle and will soon be working on the URL manager so I am told

What you can do is click on the message that you want to show the images then click the globe in the header pane and open the URL manager. If it has a ton of URLs that you don't know to which messages they pertain, back out, close the bat and reopen it. It will be on the same message and have flushed all but the URLs for that message. Go into the URL manager and allow them. Clumsy? Yes but it is soon to be fixed (I hope)

I believe the add words to spell checker issue was confirmed as fixed but my memory may be failing me   You might so well to join the mailing lists TBUDL and TBBETA if you are so inclined and want to test the latest features as they are added.

You seem to be an email power user - you made a good move by moving to the bat. I move FROM the bat and kept hitting walls - thing you just couldn't do.


24 March 2008 18:17:41, Rick G.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic5967/message22785/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic5967/message22785/ Mon, 24 Mar 2008 18:17:41 +0200 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client Too Many Little Bugs? New User Trialing The Bat & Unsure in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.
I'm new to The Bat!, coming to it from having been a Thunderbird user for several years. Thunderbird has actually stood me in good stead up until lately when it started acting very sluggish and twitchy. I think I have passed some "magic" point in the size of my message store where Thunderbird starts to lose integrity. I started hunting around for alternatives to Thunderbird and was not holding out much hope as I've used just about every email program there is: Eudora, Pegasus, Outlook, Outlook Express, Becky Mail, PocoMail, GMail, Thunderbird, Opera M2, etc. I had never tried The Bat! though, so here I am...about two days into my 30-day trial of the Pro version. I'm very impressed so far except for the following...

In the message pane where you view the contents of an email, there is a button that appears to the right of the TO, FROM, SUBJECT lines for any HTML mail. If you click on this button, you get a two-item menu, the items being "Reload Images" and "Show URL Manager." Unfortunately, the "Reload Images" item is perpetually grayed-out and I've never seen it actually accessible or useable yet. I get a lot of mail from Amazon and for some reason, even though I've allowed all amazon-sourced images through the URL Manager and have nothing on the blocked list at all, some of the Amazon images in their newsletter emails do not show up. For example, the main Amazon logo at the top simply appears as an empty placeholder box with ALT tag info. I'm not sure why these particular images are not showing but the "Reload Images" option does not work (or I should say is not accessible), so I can't try to force them to download and render.

On the "View Mode Setup" dialog (accessed by right-clicking on the column headers in the message list pane and selecting "Message List Columns" from the context menu), if I click on the Help button, I get an error message stating: "Missing context help topic 11026."

Whenever I've tried to add words to the user spell check dictionary, this operation fails, sometimes with a warning dialog and sometimes not. I've noticed from posts on this forum that this is a known bug that has lasted through at least the last three versions of The Bat! Not sure what the point of having a user dictionary is if you can't add words to it.

Anyway, just three relatively minor items but I've found them in just a day or two of trialing The Bat! and I'm wondering how many more like these I might come across? Considering how stable and feature-replete The Bat! seems to be, I'm a bit disappointed in these little bugs that keep cropping up here and there, especially the "add word to user dictionary spell check" one that has lasted through at least three versions of the program. What's taking so long to fix that?

I'm wondering if somebody who has used The Bat! for a while can give me some assurances about the program or some advice in case I'm doing something wrong regarding the above items. BTW, not sure if it is needed but I'm using The Bat! Pro trial version on Vista Ultimate with 6 email POP accounts set up. Thanks!

P.S. Sorry for the length of this message...didn't realize how long I'd gone on.
24 March 2008 17:21:55, kmb63.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic5967/message22783/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic5967/message22783/ Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:21:55 +0200 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client