www.ritlabs.com [Topic: Initial sending always fails,...] http://www.ritlabs.com New posts in Initial sending always fails,... of forum at www.ritlabs.com [www.ritlabs.com] en http://backend.userland.com/rss2 Sun, 12 Dec 2004 16:48:26 +0200 Initial sending always fails,... Initial sending always fails,... ...subsequent attempts succedd. A bug? in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.
Can't real;ly help you, I'm seeing nothing strange, you might try this:

Create a back-up
Uninstall TB (don't delete the message base)
Install TB again
Tell it to create a new account
Point it to your current mail directory and give the same account name, it should use the original config and messages.
Try whether the problem still exists.

If it still exists,
uninstall TB again, but now including the messagebase
Install it again, but now create accounts from your back-up

When anything in your config has gone corrupt, this should fix it.

If this doesn't work you should report it as an official bug, I think.

12 December 2004 16:48:26, Roelof Otten.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic643/message2850/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic643/message2850/ Sun, 12 Dec 2004 16:48:26 +0200 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client Initial sending always fails,... Initial sending always fails,... ...subsequent attempts succedd. A bug? in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.
Thanks, Roelof, for your answer.

The connection is DSL, no proxy.
My System is Windows XP (no SP2).
There is no firewall or outgoing virus-scanner,

And moreover: OE and Thunderbird behave normal.

Now I see more, at the second account:
It the first attempt takes also 30 seconds, authentification fails in that time but then thebat seems to try it again and succeeds.

====code==== 
 12.12.2004, 07:54:42: SEND  - sending mail messages - 1 messages in queue
 12.12.2004, 07:54:42: SEND  - connected to SMTP server
 12.12.2004, 07:55:15: SEND  - authenticating (plain)...
 12.12.2004, 07:55:15: SEND  - Server reports error. The response is: Incorrect authentication data
 12.12.2004, 07:55:15: SEND  - authenticating (login)...
 12.12.2004, 07:55:15: SEND  - sending message to Christof.Schardt@t-online.de
<12.12.2004, 07:55:15: SEND  - message to Christof.Schardt@t-online.de sent (553 bytes)
 12.12.2004, 07:55:15: SEND  - connection finished - 1 messages sent
=============

But only after startup. After that the sending-action takes place in one single second. As it should be.

Are there any more messages/debug-msg/traces available, which tell, what happens and why it fails?

Or any other idea?

CHristof


12 December 2004 01:00:51, Christof Schardt.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic643/message2830/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic643/message2830/ Sun, 12 Dec 2004 01:00:51 +0200 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client Initial sending always fails,... Initial sending always fails,... ...subsequent attempts succedd. A bug? in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.
You're mentioning two accounts, are they with the same ISP, do you use the same connection for it?
Do you use some proxy on your system to connect to the internet? (Shared connection, scan outgoing mail with your virus scanner, firewall settings.)

What's your OS, what TB version are you running?
Any peculiarities about your system that might have something to do with your internet connection?
Dial-up, DSL, Cable...

It's no common problem, I've never heard of it before, so it's likely to be something on your system. Do other mail clients run into the same problem or haven't you tried that?
11 December 2004 17:37:19, Roelof Otten.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic643/message2820/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic643/message2820/ Sat, 11 Dec 2004 17:37:19 +0200 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client Initial sending always fails,... Initial sending always fails,... ...subsequent attempts succedd. A bug? in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.
here is the LOG:
Please note the time-delay of 30 seconds (bold), until the server reports the error. The second (and any further) attempt at 10:37:33 works immediatly.

When I leave and restart TheBat, this behaviour is repeated.
The same strange behaviour occurs on my other account. So I concluded that this has not to do with the servers but rather with TheBat!.

First Attempt:
====code==== 
 09.12.2004, 10:36:05: SEND  - sending mail messages - 1 messages in queue
 09.12.2004, [B]10:36:05[/B]: SEND  - connected to SMTP server
!09.12.2004, [B]10:36:37[/B]: SEND  - Server reports error. The response is: l.t-online.com T-Online ESMTP receiver fssmtpd ready.
!09.12.2004, 10:36:37: SEND  - Server reports error. The response is: l.t-online.com T-Online ESMTP receiver fssmtpd ready.
 09.12.2004, 10:36:37: SEND  - connection finished - 0 messages sent
 09.12.2004, 10:36:37: SEND  - Some messages were not sent - check the log for details
============= Second Attempt ====code==== 
 09.12.2004, 10:37:33: SEND  - sending mail messages - 1 messages in queue
 09.12.2004, 10:37:33: SEND  - connected to SMTP server
 09.12.2004, 10:37:33: SEND  - sending message to ...... 09.12.2004, 10:37:33: SEND  - message to .... sent (537 bytes)
 09.12.2004, 10:37:33: SEND  - connection finished - 1 messages sent
=============

Christof

09 December 2004 03:48:25, Christof Schardt.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic643/message2760/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic643/message2760/ Thu, 09 Dec 2004 03:48:25 +0200 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client Initial sending always fails,... Initial sending always fails,... ...subsequent attempts succedd. A bug? in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.
Might help to say what error the server reports.


09 December 2004 03:00:59, Roelof Otten.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic643/message2757/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic643/message2757/ Thu, 09 Dec 2004 03:00:59 +0200 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client Initial sending always fails,... Initial sending always fails,... ...subsequent attempts succedd. A bug? in forum The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client.
I didn't get a reaction from supprt, so I post it here:

The bug description:
 The very first mail-sending after starting the program
 always fails with "server reports error:...." after
 a while.
 The second attempt immediatly succeeds.
 This happens with both my accounts, one is an auth-server
 and one not. So I strongly assume that this hasn't
 to do with server-settings/properties but is rather
 a bug in the bat!.

Steps to reproduce the bug:
 1. start bat
 2. create arbitrary mail in arbitrary account
 3. press strg+enter
 4. wait... after a while the errormessage occurs.
 5. press shift+f2, now it is beeing sent.

Who can help?
Thanks, Christof



09 December 2004 00:28:18, Christof Schardt.]]> http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic643/message2752/ http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic643/message2752/ Thu, 09 Dec 2004 00:28:18 +0200 The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client