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			<description><![CDATA[<b><a href="http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic6890/message26314/">Retrieving Compuserve Email through AT&amp;T dls</a></b> <i>Timing issue or .....</i> in forum <a href="http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/">The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client</a>. <br />
			Still can't figure out why the Vista machine canNOT retrieve the Compuserve email. &nbsp;<br /><br />Other than the server timeout settings, are there any other "timer" or timer-like settings that might affect how TheBat "talks" with the CIS server? &nbsp;<br /><br />By the way, I moved over version 3.xx of TheBat to this vista computer and ran it under XP-compatibility mode. &nbsp;Not sure how kosher that is, but it also failed. &nbsp;So it is something about this Vista computer, either Vista, Kaspersky, or maybe even that the connection is WIRELESS to the router. &nbsp;<br /><br />I've disable Kaspersky and tweaked the CIS settings but most of the time it fails to fully negotiate and just times out. &nbsp;But maybe each 20th time, it acts as if nothing is wrong and retrieves my email.<br /><br />I've figured out a duplicative workaround - I have Gmail retrieve my CIS mail but it all goes into the gmail-mailbox so my replies are from Gmail-address and not CIS. &nbsp;And while I might be able to filter the mail, the to-cis-email address is not always in the "TO" header but rather in an "inner header" called<br /><br />X-Gmail-Fetch-Info: userid@compuserve.com 1 pop.compuserve.com 110 userid<br /><br />But I don't see a way to filter on that info???<br /><br /> <br />
			<i>22 December 2008 23:34:38, <a href="http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/">fred2</a>.</i>]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><a href="http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic6890/message26280/">Retrieving Compuserve Email through AT&amp;T dls</a></b> <i>Timing issue or .....</i> in forum <a href="http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/">The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client</a>. <br />
			Kaspersky for virus and firewall. &nbsp;I don't see anything peculiar in the logs.<br /><br />Besides, it is hit and miss - that is, it sometimes works (infrequently) and then does not. &nbsp;<br /><br />Maybe it is a compuserve server issue but not on the other computer (walking into that room to check....) - downloaded instantly! (sigh)<br /><br />This one is 4.0.38 TheBat Home edition (needed for Vista). &nbsp;The other is the older version 3.65.03<br /><br />So clearly, something is affecting timing or some such and it may not be TheBat. &nbsp;I turned off Kaspersky yesterday and it did NOT help. &nbsp;Windows' Firewall is OFF.<br /><br /> <br />
			<i>18 December 2008 23:03:14, <a href="http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/">fred2</a>.</i>]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><a href="http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic6890/message26277/">Retrieving Compuserve Email through AT&amp;T dls</a></b> <i>Timing issue or .....</i> in forum <a href="http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/">The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client</a>. <br />
			It doesn't look like TB is the problem.<br />What virus scanner and firewall are you using (can you find anything in their log files?) <br />When you're checking your mail, is TB the only program running?<br />What TB version are you using? <br />
			<i>18 December 2008 18:33:40, <a href="http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/">Roelof Otten</a>.</i>]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><a href="http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic6890/message26276/">Retrieving Compuserve Email through AT&amp;T dls</a></b> <i>Timing issue or .....</i> in forum <a href="http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/">The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client</a>. <br />
			I really appreciate the help (I've also got a conversation going on a Compuserve forum)<br /><br />FAILED or TIMEOUT logs are very simple. &nbsp;As shown below all they show are that one line. &nbsp;And following those failed attempts is the good retrieval I made just a little while ago. &nbsp;I made NO changes to any of my Setup in TheBat - it just worked.<br /><br />"22:31:00] &nbsp;C: Connected to pop.compuserve.com, port 110"<br /><br />------------------------<br /><br />TheBat log session - somewhat edited:<br /><br /><br />[22:31:00]  C: Connected to pop.compuserve.com, port 110<br />[22:32:09]  C: Connected to pop.compuserve.com, port 110<br />[22:33:36]  C: Connected to pop.compuserve.com, port 110<br />[07:37:01]  C: Connected to pop.compuserve.com, port 110<br />[07:37:01]  C: Connected to pop.compuserve.com, port 110<br />[07:39:25]  C: Connected to pop.compuserve.com, port 110<br />[07:40:56]  C: Connected to pop.compuserve.com, port 110<br />[07:42:36]  C: Connected to pop.compuserve.com, port 110<br />[07:42:36]  S: +OK NT POP3 Mail Server Ready<br />[07:42:36]  C: USER userid<br />[07:42:37]  S: +OK<br />[07:42:37]  C: PASS PASSWORD<br />[07:42:38]  S: +OK<br />[07:42:38]  C: STAT<br />[07:42:39]  S: +OK 9 109919<br />[07:42:39]  C: LIST<br />[07:42:40]  S: +OK<br />[07:42:40]  S: 1 7067<br />[07:42:40]  S: 2 3590<br />[07:42:40]  S: 3 3602<br />[07:42:40]  S: 4 7327<br />[07:42:40]  S: 5 7002<br />[07:42:40]  S: 6 9135<br />[07:42:40]  S: 7 16455<br />[07:42:40]  S: 8 31149<br />[07:42:40]  S: 9 24592<br />[07:42:40]  S: .<br />[07:42:40]  C: UIDL<br />[07:42:40]  S: +OK<br />[07:42:40]  S: 1 MC3-2-1947-CDC5<br />[07:42:40]  S: 2 MC3-2-1957-361B<br />[07:42:40]  S: 3 MC3-2-1949-DB54<br />[07:42:40]  S: 4 MC3-2-1955-286A<br />[07:42:40]  S: 5 MC3-2-1957-C42<br />[07:42:40]  S: 6 MC3-2-1951-5E46<br />[07:42:40]  S: 7 MC3-2-1963-A2B8<br />[07:42:40]  S: 8 MC3-2-1960-B9E<br />[07:42:40]  S: 9 MC3-2-1958-E92<br />[07:42:40]  S: .<br />[07:42:40]  C: TOP 1 0<br />[07:42:41]  S: +OK<br />[07:42:41]  S: Sender: xxxx@methownet.com<br />[07:42:41]  S: Received: from nova.methowdata.net (nova.methowdata.net [64.146.161.164])<br />[07:42:41]  S: 	by liaag2af.mx.compuserve.com (8.13.6/8.13.4/g1.2) with ESMTP id mBHFaqFc030609<br />[07:42:41]  S: 	for &lt;userid@compuserve.com&gt;; Wed, 17 Dec 2008 10:36:54 -0500<br />[07:42:41]  S: Received: from [192.168.10.101] (unknown [10.10.27.23])<br />[07:42:41]  S: 	by nova.methowdata.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2EBB7F4AB<br /> ..........................................<br />omitted email bodies<br />..............................................<br />[07:43:36]  S: .<br />[07:43:37]  C: DELE 8<br />[07:43:39]  S: +OK<br />[07:43:39]  C: DELE 9<br />[07:43:40]  S: +OK<br />[07:43:40]  C: QUIT<br />[07:43:41]  S: +OK NT POP3 Mail Server closing connection<br />[07:54:40]  C: Connected to pop.compuserve.com, port 110<br />[07:55:11]  C: Connected to pop.compuserve.com, port 110<br />[07:55:33]  C: Connected to pop.compuserve.com, port 110<br />[07:55:52]  C: Connected to pop.compuserve.com, port 110<br /><br />And then, there are more failed attempts when I tried just trying again.<br /><br />----------------------------------------<br /><br />Thanks for your interest.<br /><br />Fred <br />
			<i>18 December 2008 18:12:25, <a href="http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/">fred2</a>.</i>]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><a href="http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic6890/message26269/">Retrieving Compuserve Email through AT&amp;T dls</a></b> <i>Timing issue or .....</i> in forum <a href="http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/">The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client</a>. <br />
			Could you show a log for a failing connection too? <br />
			<i>18 December 2008 12:13:18, <a href="http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/">Roelof Otten</a>.</i>]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><a href="http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic6890/message26256/">Retrieving Compuserve Email through AT&amp;T dls</a></b> <i>Timing issue or .....</i> in forum <a href="http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/">The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client</a>. <br />
			FIXED for SMTP - it apparently needed a valid "replyto" email address.<br /><br />I had orginally wrote:<br /><br />********************************************************<br />*""I get an error box titled: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; *<br />* &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; *<br />*Edit Mail Message -&gt; username@gmail.com &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;*<br />* &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; *<br />*In the box: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;*<br />* &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; *<br />*" RED X Server reports error. &nbsp;The respons is: need &nbsp;*<br />*user@domain at &lt;whatever&gt; Size=392"""<br />* &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; *<br />********************************************************<br /><br />NOW I would like to figure out why I cannot retrieve email on this new Vista computer from my CIS (Compuserve account) while I can on my XP computer (running an older version of TheBat).<br /><br />The setting for SENDING are the same on both computers in TheBat. &nbsp;The other computer retrieves with hardly any issues. &nbsp;This one times out, about 15 or more times and then maybe successfully retrieves.<br /><br />BUT THANKS for helping me through the smtp settings.<br /><br />Fred <br />
			<i>18 December 2008 05:41:30, <a href="http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/">fred2</a>.</i>]]></description>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 05:41:30 +0200</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><a href="http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic6890/message26252/">Retrieving Compuserve Email through AT&amp;T dls</a></b> <i>Timing issue or .....</i> in forum <a href="http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/">The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client</a>. <br />
			I'd try this in TB:<br />smtp server<br />imailhost.worldnet.att.net<br />connection: Secure to dedicated port (TLS) <br />Port 465<br />user/passw remain the same<br /><br />And if your pop3 settings are what you say, you don't use stunnel for pop3, so you don't need to change those. <br /> &nbsp; <br />
			<i>18 December 2008 01:49:14, <a href="http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/">Roelof Otten</a>.</i>]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><a href="http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic6890/message26237/">Retrieving Compuserve Email through AT&amp;T dls</a></b> <i>Timing issue or .....</i> in forum <a href="http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/">The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client</a>. <br />
			This may be more than I understand.<br /><br />My cis info is:<br /><br />username@compuserve.com<br /><br />smtp server: 127.0.0.1<br />connection Regular, Port 25<br />Perform Smpt 2554<br />and AT&T login info<br />---------------<br /><br />pop.compuserve.com<br />User: just username (not @compuserve)<br />Port 110<br />Auth- regular<br />Protocol pop3<br /><br />-------------<br /><br />Stunnel settings:<br /><br /> [pop3]<br /> accept = 110<br /> connect = ipostoffice.worldnet.att.net:995<br /><br /> [smtp]<br /> accept = 25<br /> connect = imailhost.worldnet.att.net:465<br /><br /><br />What would I do to "combine" those to eliminate Stunnel?<br /><br />Sorry if I'm not following.<br /><br />THANKS, in advance<br /><br /> <br />
			<i>16 December 2008 08:08:15, <a href="http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/">fred2</a>.</i>]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><a href="http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic6890/message26235/">Retrieving Compuserve Email through AT&amp;T dls</a></b> <i>Timing issue or .....</i> in forum <a href="http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/">The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client</a>. <br />
			I'm not sure why you're using stunnel to access your cis account, TB should be able to connect with ssl/tls by itself.<br />Try the transport settings of the account properties. <br />
			<i>15 December 2008 19:48:33, <a href="http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/">Roelof Otten</a>.</i>]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><a href="http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/topic6890/message26232/">Retrieving Compuserve Email through AT&amp;T dls</a></b> <i>Timing issue or .....</i> in forum <a href="http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/forum4/">The Bat! - Configuring the E-mail Client</a>. <br />
			I have dsl through AT&T. &nbsp;Thebat has gotten my other email accounts, including a few AT&T accounts and a gmail account. &nbsp;It seems to have problems getting to Compuserve (CIS). &nbsp;I have used TheBat for years on an xp computer. &nbsp;The method involved using a program called Stunnel to allow me to come into cis using the AT&T connection. &nbsp;It worked with occasional glitches where the log-on to cis would just sit there and finally timeout but they were rare.<br /><br />I've now moved to Vista and the newest HOME version of thebat. &nbsp;I frequently cannot successfully get to the cis account. &nbsp;It works maybe once every 10 or 15 tries. &nbsp;It just times out. &nbsp;The bat log shows:<br /><br />"Connected to pop.compuserve.com, port 110"<br /><br />for the attempts but nothing happens and increasing the time for logon to 2 minutes has not worked. &nbsp;When it works, it usually succeeds almost immediately.<br /><br />Here's part of this afternoon's log where it was successful:<br /><br />"[13:01:09]  C: Connected to pop.compuserve.com, port 110<br />[13:01:09]  S: +OK NT POP3 Mail Server Ready<br />[13:01:09]  C: USER username<br />[13:01:09]  S: +OK<br />[13:01:09]  C: PASS xxxxxxxxx<br />[13:01:10]  S: +OK<br />[13:01:10]  C: STAT<br />[13:01:10]  S: +OK 6 172917<br />[13:01:10]  C: LIST"<br /><br />Ideas, anyone? <br />
			<i>15 December 2008 07:41:01, <a href="http://www.ritlabs.com/en/forums/">fred2</a>.</i>]]></description>
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