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About to switch to another email client, but I'd rather not. I loved the promoted The Bat! for a long time now
 
thinking about another mail client. I've been using the bat longer than I can remember and prefer to use a POP client because I keep a copy of the emails locally.
But the program has become unusable for me.

I just switched to a new, mid level windows 11 laptop. Immediately noticed that the Bat is much slower,
specifically when downloading email  it seems much slower for each message. In addition, I have a global unread filter that takes like 30 seconds to fully register even after that mail is finished downloading.
The UI seems a bit lagging as well but works better once the messages are processed by the global filter.

also , occasionally when I start the bat, google chrome opens up. I don't even have chrome installed on my computer.

I tried a few things that The Bat support told me to but nothing helped.

any advice?
thanks
 
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David Moskowitz wrote:
also , occasionally when I start the bat, google chrome opens up

Sounds like v1.4.1 to me. That is not Chrome, but CEF (the Chromium extension used by TB) not working properly. That window should never pop up.

For starters, I would recommend rolling back to v1.4 or 1.3, links to official installers are documented by the German TB forum: https://www.batboard.net/

When rolling back, don't install an older version over the newer one, do an uninstall (and back everything up) first.

Also, you can use older (and faster) UI elements, see here: https://www.ritlabs.com/en/auth-forums/forum4/topic14738/message56884/#message56884

As for the filters, they have been slow since I remember if you do anything more complex (with many rules). I usually wait for them to finish before doing anything else. I don't know whether Windows 11 makes it worse, I'm still using 10.

There's been a lot of development activity lately (many beta versions), hopefully things will be ironed out in the new (and overdue) official version.
 
Everything Miloš said. But also, you can use IMAP and also have all messages stored locally, simply by setting the appropriate options in TB. This has several advantages. Most obviously, the IMAP server is a mirror of your local folders, and thus a backup. Webmail can serve as an alternate interface when your Windows platform is unavailable.

Also, the world is moving toward IMAP and away from POP, so in the long run maintaining a POP system wil be increasingly difficult. Obviously everyone here is resisting the move from local clients to webmail, but that's independent of IMAP vs POP. I moved to IMAP about 15 years ago, when I had to abandon Eudora, and moving from POP to IMAP was far and away the least of the changes. I really don't notice it when I'm using TB.
The one important thing I noticed about TB and IMAP was in the search tool. "Match" does a search on the server, whereas "contains" operates locally and is much faster, at least compared with my mail server.
 
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Miloš Radovanović wrote:
There's been a lot of development activity lately (many beta versions), hopefully things will be ironed out in the new (and overdue) official version.

And lo and behold, the new version 11.4.2.1 dropped today.
 
Relevant update on the new version 11.4.2.1: the bugs that prevented me from using the previous v11.4.1 seem to be ironed out, but for me it is generally noticeably slower than 11.3 and 11.4. However, the slowdowns happened only with the 64-bit version - the 32-bit version is very snappy and stable, reminds me of the "golden days". Of course it is still early, but for now I have no reason to roll back, to the contrary. It feels faster and more responsive than (64-bit) 11.3 and 11.4.
Edited: Miloš Radovanović - 13 June 2025 13:26:59 (clarifications)
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