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I have an IMAP (Gmail) account that I've been using for nearly a year in The Bat! (I was using a 4.x version that had decent IMAP support.)  

I upgraded to 5.0 a few days ago and this morning I noticed that it doesn't delete some messages in subfolders.  I have a number of inbox filters that move some messages to subfolders as they come in.  Once I've taken care of the messages, I delete them (they're reviews, so once posted on my web site, I delete them from the subfolders.)

What I noticed is that the message disappears from the subfolder for a couple of seconds, and then suddenly reappears.  Very weird.  I didn't have this problem in 4.x.  On the other hand, if I delete a message in the inbox folder, it doesn't come back, so this seems to be related to subfolders only.

My deletion setting under Mail Management is set to "Move messages to the Trash folder" under "Normal Deletion".  If I tell it to mark it as deleted and not use the Trash folder, then it seems to delete it fine, but then I can't "undelete" it if I deleted it by mistake (hey, it happens... :))

Still IMAP-related, when The Bat! filters my inbox on reception and moves some messages to subfolders, sometimes it will leave a copy of the message(s) in the inbox (the message(s) also show up in the subfolders), and only much later will it finally remove them from the inbox, leaving them only in the subfolders (as expected.)  This seems to be intermittent.  Often I need to restart The Bat! for it to clean up the inbox.

This is using Windows 7 64-bit.  Other than this I haven't noticed anything out of the ordinary yet.
 
 
 
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Michel Renaud wrote:
I have an IMAP (Gmail) account that I've been using for nearly a year in The Bat! (I was using a 4.x version that had decent IMAP support.)  



I upgraded to 5.0 a few days ago and this morning I noticed that it doesn't delete some messages in subfolders.  I have a number of inbox filters that move some messages to subfolders as they come in.  Once I've taken care of the messages, I delete them (they're reviews, so once posted on my web site, I delete them from the subfolders.)

My deletion setting under Mail Management is set to "Move messages to the Trash folder" under "Normal Deletion".  If I tell it to mark it as deleted and not use the Trash folder, then it seems to delete it fine, but then I can't "undelete" it if I deleted it by mistake (hey, it happens...  )

Forgive my ignorance, just started using The bat.

But you say "if I tell it to Mark it as deleted and Not use the trash folder, then it seems to delete fine"
Surely using IMAP when you delete a message, the message just has a line through it . It only gets deleted if you have it set to purge on exit.

Do I have this wrong, Using Imap should a message just have a line through it for deletion
 
 
 
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Tony Mallen wrote:
Forgive my ignorance, just started using The bat.



But you say "if I tell it to Mark it as deleted and Not use the trash folder, then it seems to delete fine"

Surely using IMAP when you delete a message, the message just has a line through it . It only gets deleted if you have it set to purge on exit.



Do I have this wrong, Using Imap should a message just have a line through it for deletion

It marks it as deleted to the IMAP server knows to delete it, but it doesn't move it to the trash folder, making undelete impossible. This is what I expect when using that option.  It's the other option that doesn't work the way it used to - at least not when deleting from a subfolder.
 
 
 
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Michel Renaud wrote:
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Tony Mallen wrote:

Forgive my ignorance, just started using The bat.







But you say "if I tell it to Mark it as deleted and Not use the trash folder, then it seems to delete fine"



Surely using IMAP when you delete a message, the message just has a line through it . It only gets deleted if you have it set to purge on exit.







Do I have this wrong, Using Imap should a message just have a line through it for deletion



It marks it as deleted to the IMAP server knows to delete it, but it doesn't move it to the trash folder, making undelete impossible. This is what I expect when using that option.  It's the other option that doesn't work the way it used to - at least not when deleting from a subfolder.
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Michel Renaud wrote:
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Tony Mallen wrote:

Forgive my ignorance, just started using The bat.







But you say "if I tell it to Mark it as deleted and Not use the trash folder, then it seems to delete fine"



Surely using IMAP when you delete a message, the message just has a line through it . It only gets deleted if you have it set to purge on exit.







Do I have this wrong, Using Imap should a message just have a line through it for deletion



It marks it as deleted to the IMAP server knows to delete it, but it doesn't move it to the trash folder, making undelete impossible. This is what I expect when using that option.  It's the other option that doesn't work the way it used to - at least not when deleting from a subfolder.

The reason I mentioned that, was because I am using IMAP and for the first time(The Bat), and I have "Mark Message as deleted but do not move to Trash". But the problem I am having with the Bat is that the message is ACTUALLy deleted (not marked for deletion).

Postbox mail handles this okay
 
 
 
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deleting mode is configurable in account or in folder properties, do You have selected marking as deleted instead moving to trash?
 
 
 
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Marek Mikus wrote:
deleting mode is configurable in account or in folder properties, do You have selected marking as deleted instead moving to trash?

Yes I do, but that's the problem: It deletes the message and it cannot be retrieved from Trash if I make a mistake.  And if I tell it to just move it to the trash folder, then it stays visible in the folder I deleted it from...
 
 
 
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Marek Mikus wrote:
deleting mode is configurable in account or in folder properties, do You have selected marking as deleted instead moving to trash?

I have to agree with some of the other messages.
Using IMAP with mark message for deletion, do not use trash folder, Actually Deletes the message. It does not mark it.

postbox mail handles this okay, The Bat fails to do this.
 
 
 
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